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So, for those who don't know, TV Tropes is a website that explains how certain elements that are part of a story, become something that isn't tiring, old, and yet familiar, unlike a Cliché.
The SCP Foundation has it's own page on that website, which is referenced back to SCP-4445. If I got the SCP wrong, please correct me, as it's hard to keep up with a lot of them.
For the website:TV Tropes: SCP Foundation AKA "SCP-4445"
Enjoy the Tropes.
I'm not a huge fan of that site, mainly for the fact that it gets unduly referenced just for the sake of being referenced. Just because something is a trope doesn't necessarily mean it is bad. Trope has become a dirty word now and it's purely a subjective experience form person to person. Tropes are just part of the story in my opinion and sometimes they get overused, sure.
Being called out on some obscure trope just seems like a lame thing to be called out for IMO.
EDIT: That kinda turned into a rant at the end. Apologies.
Trope has become a dirty word now
Thank you for the trope on tropes. It's useful, indeed, as I've come across tv shows through this website and the tropes I've been interested in.
Exactly.
As with anything, GIFT results in a few morons trying to be clever demonstrating their own ignorance, but as anyone who frequents the site will quickly point out, tropes are not cliches- but what they are is everywhere: Being surprised to find tropes in a work is like being surprised to find wheels on your car.
That's a good way to put it, actually: tropes are to a creative work what parts like a motor are to a vehicle: It can't function without them, and you have to understand them to actually build one yourself.
If the parts are poorly assembled or the wrong types are used, the result won't work. If the right parts are used and expertly assembled, you get an impressive result. There are an endless number of ways a vehicle can be designed- but generally you still have to have the same basic parts for a given type of vehicle to work properly. On the other hand, it's also completely possible to radically alter traditional parts, or invent new parts, or even create entirely new types of vehicle… but the resulting vehicle is still a combination of vehicle parts.
And to complete the metaphor, at the end of the day, the best way to learn to build your own vehicles is to deeply study existing vehicles: You examine how they are put together, and why and how the makers used a particular part for a particular purpose. You study what people have tried in the past that worked, and what didn't work. You look at new ways to use or improve existing parts, and get some ideas for things that haven't been done before. And once you have a deep understanding of how it all fits together, you're in a much better position to create something that will actually work.
That's what TVtropes is, basically: a place to learn how to build stories by taking stories apart to see what makes them tick.
Really, I thought that Cliché was considered a dirty word in the world of media.
Also, this was set up to discuss tropes here, along with our own page on the website TVtropes.org
Well I was going to complain that nothing I have written rates yet, but SPC-140 apparently does. I guess I am now a genuine internet cultural figure.
ETA: I think there's some irony in that one of my lowest rated works here is apparently the only one of note to broader internet culture…
Heck, my universe-ending SCP-2305 collab makes an appearance.
It'd be nice to have more SCPs represented, as well as more tales for sure.
The general TVTropes page that the OP linked is just an overview- the various tabs up at the top of the page (Nightmare Fuel, Headscratchers, Heartwarming, etc.) are various suppliments (for lack of a better term) that expand on several trope concepts and how parts of the Foundationverse ise them. For instance, the "Nightmare Fuel" suppliment tab at the top leads to a ton of SCPs that use nightmare fuel in some manner.
Hell, we're a regular Nightmare Fuel Filling Station :P
If you look under "Web Original" on "Epic Flail", you'll see a reference to Introductory Antimemetics.
I think Deci is saying there could be more on that list, it is far from complete.
Indeed I am! I'm very versed with TVTropes (and I've read practically every page on the SCP Foundation's TVTropes index), which is why it'd be nice to have more SCPs and especially more tales. Only a handful of tales get referenced on there, and the majority of SCPs are from Series 1 (and even the tailend of Series 1 doesn't get much compared to the first 2/3).
Hey guys, If you look under "Bag of Holding" you'll find the Bag of Holding Potatoes, and The Safe. Thanks for this, and keep up the good work.
TVTropes is also handy for understanding some reviewers' (coughcoughmecoughcough) comments either in Drafts and Critiques or on finished posts. I try not to use explicit trope language, but it sneaks in here and there (e.g., squick, narmy).
I think this is actually a good thing, because reading through TVtTopes is basically a self-directed course in recognizing narrative elements and breaking down stories, including examples of what works and what doesn't in a given context. This is for good or bad: just like there are overused tropes that can hinder a story, there could easily be tropes that could improve one. Learning to recognize story beats is often a good way to recognize what's good or bad in your own writing.
Admittedly, critiquing on the wiki is something of a specialized skill, because it can rely on a lot of knowledge of both the SCP format/tropes/history and the state of the readership1, but outside of that my best tools for understanding narrative came from hours reading TVtropes and watching film critiques. (RedLetterMedia's Star Wars prequel post-mortems jump to mind.)
Granted, it gets kind of harder to enjoy things...
I try not to use explicit trope language, but it sneaks in here and there (e.g., squick, narmy).
… which is why I got into the habit of always linking to the specific TVTropes page when I use them. If you know what I mean, great. If not, you will shortly.
… And then maybe curse the day I linked you to TVTropes.
Some of us, like you, found TV Tropes by accident or was looking for something specific.
So, don't curse some of us who've already encountered TV Tropes. It's also how some of us may have been recruited into the SCP Foundation.
Quick question: Anyone noticed that our TVTropes page is a SCP? Only, I think it's hard to contain.
In addition, I think that it's nice that they mention that we predate Warehouse 13 but not Raiders of the Lost Ark.
How would the Ark be contained in our SCP-verse? Would Indy be involved?
Well, given that the Ark as portrayed in the film is clearly Safe-class (leave the lid on and nothing happens), it'd be contained the same way the Gov't did in the film - put it in a crate and stack it with the other Safe-class objects not under study.
The government agents in the film would then be either Agents or Containment Specialists who recruited Indy for the retrieval due to resource limitations.
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