I love this. One thing though: I get that the bottom two are the cross and the holy grail, but is all the other stuff various historical/religious artifacts, or just cool stuff?
Date: 08 Oct 2011 04:42
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Yes. Everything here is of immense historic and religious value.
The Deadly Moose, the Foundation didn't intend to be throwing out all this stuff. But Dr Jerome Savonarola destroyed it all, out of petty malice.
Upvoted for the concept, but I feel like the story should actually go somewhere.
In my opinion, they should have at least kept the True Cross and the Lance of Longinus (is that what the spear is?) just in case there's a demonic SCP which needs exorcising.
Spear of Longinus and the Cross both list nails. One of the nails from the Cross is supposed to be used in the Spear.
The spear of longinus is the spear christ was supposed to have been stabbed with. While he was on the cross. How could a nail holding him up there have been used in a spear that stabbed him while he was up there?
You'd think, right? But then, you'd be using "logic" and the myths about "The Holy Spear" "Spear of Destiny" "Spear of Christ" "Spear of Longinus" are so convoluted that none of it makes any sense, starting with the fact Longinus isn't actually in the bible,the soldier who stabbed Christ isn't named and the "Longinus" may have been the man who ordered it, that did the stabbing (unlikely), been a later convert, or never existed. Fun stuff!
Most likely, in first or so century they were in need of uplifting stories and made stories up and mixed and matched names.
Books about the the spear(s) read a lot like the ones that talk about the Grail - conjecture, supposition, and "I think this sounds cool" stuff.
The spear referred to in the article is this one which was from the third century, and bits of first century (the nail). Looking at the nail that's in there, I'm wondering how it was supposed to hold up someone nailed to a cross even if it DID go through the bones of the wrist! You'd think it would look more like a railroad spike or have a wider head. I don't think it would go through feet, all that well either.
This and the Grail have so many stories and legends that aren't in the bible, I start to mumble "There is no canon!"
Is the red cow an end times reference?
According to certain apocalyptic beliefs, the Apocalypse and Second Coming of Christ can't occur until the true Temple of Jerusalem has been rebuilt and redidicated… which requires the sacrifice of a pure-red heifer.
Giving bearhugs to the unsuspecting since 1872.
Voct gets a cookie for picking up the Savonarola reference; there are a number of other Easter eggs but that would be telling. (Hint- look at the item designation codes).
Tuomey: it's a Bible thing, but not that.
And as for the nails, well, the collection of fragments contained "some nails" (i.e. not necessarily all of them). The spear included "a nail", which as the articles that Bland references infer, was added later. Apparently medieval reliquary theory included the notion that if you affixed relics together, you'd increase the effectiveness- like a theological Voltron.
There's something very disturbing about countless artifacts of insane cultural value being thrown away.
I find it more disturbing that these objects are considered so unimportant that they are relegated to "the attic". Of course, they are not anomalous, which is part of the problem. The Foundation might have taken them assuming they were, only to find that they were not, and as a result were no longer interested.
A great write-up.