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An autonomous sound that really, really wants to talk to you. I like.
Giving bearhugs to the unsuspecting since 1872.
So this thing has breached containment, and we don't know where it is/whether it even exists anymore? Hmm.
Given the contagiousness & danger, it seems like this would be immediately classified Euclid upon initial containment, and made Keter after the escape. What if it made it into a major city? Or the internet? There'd be no stopping it.
I think I'd like this better if the effect of hearing it was something more clever than facebleeding and [DATA EXPUNGED]. Right now it's pretty much identical to the kill image meme, but with sound instead of a picture.
Not Keter since it can be contained. It just exhibited a new effect and breached containment. Euclid sounds right.
I get what you're saying, but "inability to be contained" is not a requirement for Keter. 008 can be contained, in a little glass vial in a maximum security facility- it's Keter because it would be absolutely devastating if it got out. This thing is even worse, because it's actively, creatively seeking ways to escape and spread.
Even after the edit that removed the facebleeding and [DATA EXPUNGED] effects, it still makes people so obsessed with spreading the sound that they have to be terminated. That's Keter.
"SCP-1189 is to be kept in a soundproofed steel box…"
"SCP-1189 is a sound, measuring an average of forty decibels, accompanied by a pale green glow. SCP-1189 has no discernible source."
This makes no fucking sense, to the point that it breaks suspension of disbelief. Downvoted.
Thanks for the fast feedback, everyone! I really appreciate it.
Rukor, I had second thoughts about that phrasing. I meant to imply that the physician doing the evaluation might have told them that he was going to give them something to help with their nerves, but instead sedated them so they could be carted off and eliminated. What did you think it meant? I may remove the sedation and just have them terminated.
Tombones, I originally decided to go with Safe/Euclid just because the containment seemed to be pretty simple (the only problems came when people underestimated how much it had to be contained.) Locking the thing in a box was effective, and it proved transportable to boot, so I figured an original classification as Safe made sense, with an upgrade to Euclid when they realized it was a little more complicated than just a mesmerizing sound. The idea was that they were pretty confident they could contain it successfully should they locate it, but you're right that the danger posed by SCP-1189 increases exponentially as its accessibility increases. I don't know, do you still think Euclid/Keter makes more sense?
Spikebrennan, did you read down at the end of the description? The box was originally constructed around the estimated center of the sound; the sound itself later proved to be transportable, which suggests the possibility of a physical source, though its nature remains elusive. The juxtaposition of its apparent lack of physical presence with its simultaneous ability to be transported was intentional. Do you still think it needs rethinking?
Oh, and Tombones, I think you're right about needing a better effect. I want to keep the chain-reaction effect, but whatever comes after needs work. I'll give it some thought.
Aaah, Spikebrennan I see how you read that, and yeah that doesn't make any sense. I envisioned the sound as highly localized, emanating from a single point (or small area), but with no discernible physical source. Here's the edit I just made to the article:
SCP-1189 has no discernible physical source, though it appears to originate from the small area at the apparent center of the glow.
Not sure about the wording, but that's the idea I intended. I see why you were confused.
[…End Double Edit?]
So what's glowing?
I respectfully suggest that you check out SCP-1012.
Though it didn't make it into the final article, originally subjects that saw the glow, even if they couldn't hear the sound, would immediately be compelled to hear the sound, whether that meant coming closer or removing hearing protection. As far as what's physically causing the glow, I have positively no idea. Again, the physical nature of the SCP is part of what makes it interesting (at least in theory). Do you see a problem with the glowing effect, as is?
And I actually skimmed 1012 before writing this, to make sure my idea hadn't already been done. Especially after removing the "bleed then asplode" effect, 1189 doesn't seem particularly similar to 1012. Why do you mention it?
Possibly because the foundation of SCP-1012 is that the Foundation broadcasts certain "counter tones" throughout the world that prevent people from hearing it. He might be suggesting that the Foundation could do something the same with this.
Ah, I see. The problem is that there aren't a small amount of frequencies; the pattern seems to resemble some form of speech, which would be a wide, variable range, and also well within the range commonly utilized by humans when they speak.
The issue with the glow is that something- some matter- has to be doing the glowing. Vacuum doesn't radiate.
So there's some matter, which mysteriously glows and which presumably generates the sound. That matter, then, is your SCP object; not the sound itself.
I offered the comparison to 1012 because in that case the sound itself (i.e. the concept of that particular sound itself, as a feature of physics and cosmology) was the SCP object. In this case, your concept only makes sense if you describe the SCP object as a physical thing, not as a sound. Clear?
I understand where you're coming from, but I think where we're differing is that I specifically decided to make 1189 act in a way that doesn't make sense on a couple levels. Yeah, because there's a glow something has to be glowing, but because there was no air during the experiment, no sound should have been transmitted through the suit's radio. There doesn't appear to be any reason for there to be a sound or a glow; but there are, and what's more they can be transported.
So basically, I'm not willing to agree that there is some matter (as we might define it); what matter may or may not be present, and how it might act and react (since it doesn't act as it should) is left to the reader to postulate. I think that you and I are coming at this from different points stylistically; the things that you find immersion-breaking, I intended to give the reader pause. I maintain that what I've written is internally consistent, though some readers might (with some real legitimacy) find it too preposterous to enjoy.
I really appreciate your feedback; thanks a lot for your comments.
"Vacuum doesn't radiate."
And sounds don't cause people to go homicidally insane trying to hear the sound again. And lizards don't grow to be 30 feet long and indestructible.
those are bad comparisons, but your point is valid.
I'd use more something like SCP-033 - it makes no sense logically… yet it exists and it's precisely the reason why it is dangerous.
In the words of Researcher Eisenberg: "…for one, as you probably heard, what we got here doesn't only fuck with physics, it makes porn of it…"
These are terrible analogies. The lizard is science fiction. Light radiating from vacuum is like light radiating from September, or radiating from the number seven, or radiating from democracy. It's not fantasy, it's patent nonsense.
But.. it isn't radiating from vacuum. Basically we get photons thrown around that appear to originate somewhere on a straght line path.. except the lines cross at a point where there is nothing special, not that we can measure.
That's why it's an SCP - not only it is beyond our knowledge of physics, it counters well estabilished physical laws.
Other good objects to compare would be the water orb, or sideways falling rock
My last word on the subject:
To quote G.K. Chesterton:
"It really is more natural to believe a preternatural story, that deals with things we don't understand, than a natural story that contradicts things we do understand. Tell me that the great Mr. Gladstone, in his last hours, was haunted by the ghost of Parnell, and I will be agnostic about it. But tell me that Mr. Gladstone, when first presented to Queen Victoria, wore his hat in her drawingroom and slapped her on the back and offered her a cigar, and I am not agnostic at all. That is not impossible, it's only incredible. But I'm much more certain it didn't happen than that Parnell's ghost didn't appear; because it violates the laws of the world I do understand."
There is some merit to this piece but it's got "memetic + crazy to death" built into its equation.
I can buy it being some kind of infectious sound that drives people to try to recreate it, and being memetic in that sense, but I'd rather see people just get really, really frustrated (to the point of insanity in most cases, sure) at their inability to mimic the sound with their own vocal chords or instruments at hand… that would be much better than AND THEN YOU BLEED AND DATA EXPUUUUUNGED! The Foundation doesn't need to data expunge someone's head a splode. The point of expunging things is to get the reader to come up with their own horrible conclusion but if their own horrible conclusion is not that horrible the expungement hurts.
True. The aspect I really liked (and thus focused on) was the "contagious" aspect of the sound, not the fact that it causes death. I just wanted it to be a really bad thing when one affected person gets another to hear the sound, though just being obsessed with it to the exclusion of all else is bad enough.
Now that I've looked at it, I literally just kinda tacked that on there, didn't I? It does work better without that aspect, thanks.
FYI, the edit tags are unnecessary. Traditionally, you just write EDIT: before whatever it is you add in, like I will below.
EDIT: To make this post worthwhile, I'd just like to point out that I love how even the computers really want people to hear it.
You're missing an Agent name in the incident. You have an Agent whose name is blacked out and one that's merely referred to as "Agent". I prefer it without the facebleeding. I also like the suggestion someone made before of people without recording equipment or easy access to the sound (say, D-Class who've been exposed and then stuck in another room) trying to replicate it, resulting in fun damage to their vocal cords and/or other things.
Oh, I actually read a couple other articles that referred to Agents that had already been named by saying "Agent," instead of "him" or "her," just to keep it from being awkward or informal.
I'm toying with the idea of imitation. Originally my thought had been that the people that were trying to recreate the sound were those that had only barely heard it to begin with. They want to know what it sounds like, and if they did they would be completely affected, but as is they're still obsessed, just not in the same way. I really like the idea, I'm just not sure how I would implement it (description of accidental occurrences, experiment logs, etc).
The box containing SCP-1189 was placed in a soundproofed room, and all air was evacuated from both the room and the box.
I think they'd be afraid that this would "kill" the SCP.
Such personnel were terminated.
So amnesiacs don't remove the memetic effect? Or did they not even try?
For the first, I think the indeterminate nature of the source (as discussed above) would cast enough doubt to make the test acceptable. 1189 has both a glow and a sound; the sound just has the most impact.
For the second, I admit I didn't really think about it. I would think that an SCP that causes amnesia would be effective, but I prefer the added tension of containment as the only way to control the effects. Even if it would be impossible in the case of a large-scale loss of containment, the recourse to amnesia would decrease the urgency of keeping people away from the sound. 1189 just isn't as big a deal if you can wipe people's memories. As new to the site as I am, I actually haven't read any memory-altering SCP articles yet, so I wrote 1189 as if there weren't any, which I think actually works better for the article itself.
It's not an SCP, although we do have a few that can cause amnesia. The Foundation uses drugs that induce retrograde amnesia and presumably temporary suggestibility very extensively. The exact properties of these are kind of handwaved, but they're an important part of the setting.