You had me when he started tossing pieces of little kids over the clif.
Date: 26 May 2012 08:50
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Actually, suicide would a very good way to join Satan and his fiery carnival of doom according to Christian teachings, but otherwise a great tale to complement 1588. +1
Thus the mention of "paying penance to the Church" - this story is set in the days when one could still buy indulgences for sins not yet committed. In any event, saying that they ended up "in Christ's embrace" is more of a metaphorical statement than anything else - even in a gory, old-fashioned fairy tale where the main characters die at the end, you can't very well close by saying they're in Hell. :)
I… don't think it worked like that. If I recall right.. see , this is where Lumancer might be of use, indulgences were to get rid of a more 'temporal' part of the punishment for sin, i think purgatory time. Eternal punishment, that you had to not die in a state of mortal sin i.e. get a confession done if you broke any of the ten commandments.
Actually, indulgences aren't meant to keep anyone out of hell. As I understand it, even a Catholic that dies in a state of grace (ie, without unforgiven grave sins) is believed to enter Purgatory for a time prior to addmittance to Heaven. An indulgence does not forgive sin; it reduces the ammount of time one will spend in purgatory IF hell is avoided.
However, as was already pointed out, this was the middle ages, and there were deeply distressing abuses being practiced by some members of the clergy, so it's plausable that the priest "gave" the knight the advance pardon he asked for. I also don't know the historical details well, so the definitions may have been different in that era.
In either case, the theology says that the knight is most likely screwed. Forgivess in the Church is largely rooted in contrition; you can't really be sincerely contrite for something you're going to do, but do it anyway.
One could also consider this to be a case of an unreliable narrator - the person telling the story is telling it many generations after the fact, and is probably a Protestant whose understanding of how indulgences worked is even less than my own. In any event, I think it works within the context of the tale.
The entire practice of indulgences was far from static, and what they could and couldn't do changed, mostly according the how many the current pope wanted to sell. For instance, just before Luther and the Reformation, you could even buy indulgences for sins you haven't committed yet, and be pardoned for them in advance, as well as buy them for dead relatives in order to shorten their time in purgatory. It's one of the reasons Luther decided the church was irredeemable at a certain stage.
Also, a question.
Have you considered cross-posting this, with the memo from Dr. Samesh at the end removed in the foundation's sister site, the Wanderer's Library? It just seems to fit their style.
Not really. Stories with little else going for them than being about about existing SCPs tend to read horribly, and reposts from the main site are generally frowned upon.
Besides, the memo at the end is a large part of what makes this fun.
This is amazing and beautiful, and it's a real fairy tale because children get killed in it. I have one suggestion. This line
She took her own life because of their lie.
Would rhyme far better if it ended with "because they had lied".
I am a serious poetry Nazi though, so that's up to you.
If for some reason I ever had children, I would read them this. +1, very well done.