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I have to admit, when someone pinged me in IRC several days ago to ask me to go look into the sex dimension draft, I was iffy. But hell, this turned into something pretty damn smart.
scp euclid extradimensional historical location portal sexual
Edit: Wait, your collaborators don't have Wikidot accounts? I… don't know how that works. Maybe it's not against any rule. It seems like it would be. Hopefully a staffer will know.
I appear to be a member here, but I did all of my collaboration through Reddit.
The Doc here was extremely helpful collaborating on huge chunks of this skip. Hell, I should list him as a coauthor.
Kind words indeed. I wrote a few bits here and there.
This project took me nearly three weeks.
It was so worth it. I'd like to give a special thanks to my following collaborators:
Writers - Darsim,
Doktor Wunderbar,
Zade Roxel and
XDisk on Reddit
Editors/Proofreaders - Cyantreuse,
Uncle Nicolini,
Zyn,
Roget
And TSATPWTCOTTTADC for photoshopping that sexy header image.
EDIT: A special thanks to Nordovskiy for working on the RU translation.
I couldn't have made SCP-3651 without you guys. :)
The Forum butterflies are the real MVP. Thank you to you and your team, Zyn. :P
Holy crapola!
Hey Zyn, I apologize for not mentioning you! I've had alot of lovely people help me out. I'll gladly add you and Roget in. Let me see if I can find anyone else.
No worries; it looks like I missed your most recent request for feedback anyway.
That said… teeeeeeentative upvote from me here, since while I do like the premise, I feel like there's a lot more worldbuilding that could have been done that wasn't so reliant on existing themes from other works (Brave New World and mythology). There's also the fact that the Exploration of SCP-3651-A dialogue felt like very heavily spoonfed exposition, and it didn't really need to be presented in log form when an excerpt from a textbook or something similar from that world could have sufficed (and kept the wordcount down).
I admit I was hoping for something more streamlined, sort of like SCP-1483 (The Third Antarctic Empire), since while your supplementary material is fairly interesting, I found myself wanting to know more about the everyday life and sights beyond the expected "there's a lot of sex and worship happening". The interviews could probably have been made into their own page.
I'm glad you mentioned that.
I'm planning to extend the lore of SCP-3651-A if it gets enough traction. I already know a few authors who're interested in writing tales about the skip. I'm aiming for a decent amount of upvotes before I create further information behind the world of SCP-3651-A.
Originally, I wanted to write what an alternate SCP Foundation in SCP-3651-A would look like. However, I got really tired and felt the skip was good enough to submit. Eventually, if this skip does well, my next plan is to add the Foundation.
Quite honestly, this felt like a pale imitation of Brave New World to me. The final dialogue, in particular, reads like a Cliff Notes version of the argument between John and Mustapha Mond. This article took BNW's trenchant insights on social trends and replaced them with divine intervention. Solid -1 from me.
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Hey Communism will win!
You're absolutely correct. The dialogue between John and Mustapha Mond was the *exact* scene I had in mind. It was so moving and perfectly describes how a hedonistic dystopia operates behind-the-curtains. I'll be honest, I borrowed a few sentences from BNW and modified them accordingly.
I've even based our [REDACTED] Doctor here off of John the Savage and the Goddess Qetesh off of Mustafa Mond.
Once again, if it reads like a page-for-page imitation of BNW, a few parts — particularly at the end — were.
Once again, if it reads like a page-for-page imitation of BNW, a few parts — particularly at the end — were.
I don't think that's a feature.
I want to like this a lot more than I ended up actually liking it. It's an interesting take on the old phrase of make love not war, the picture is a gorgeous choice… but… it feels hollow. I can't explain why. As an SCP it's pretty good and would get an upvote from me, but I honestly can't see this being 4000.
This was a good read! The article gets a little explain-y right around the addenda, but it's not a huge issue.
Hey Fort!
So, to answer your questions:
1.) Yeah, so Cyantreuse and
Zyn suggested I cut down the first-day lecture, which I plan to tonight. It will simply be an excerpt from an SCP-3651-A textbook.
2.) For your second question, this was discussed behind-the-scenes, but wasn't implemented in the article. So the antivirals and antibiotics presented in SCP-3651-A are utterly useless in baseline reality due to minor cellular differences in their anatomy. While it's a parallel dimension, there are minor changes in microbiology in SCP-3651-A. Once the Foundation contacted their respective governments, I'd imagine inoculations were administered to Foundation scientists upon exploration.
3.) Not necessarily. There are a few ways to get into SCP-3651-A. a.) While it's not written in yet, but will be IF this skip gets enough traction, is reassignment to one of numerous Foundation outpost stationed in their reality. b.) A scientific study conducted by Foundation personnel at their own discretion. If you're caught by a Level 3 Researcher conducting "studies" without scientific reason, I'd imagine you'd be reprimanded.
Well this was a fun read. This SCP had alot of potential to get weird and somewhat fetishy, but you avoided all that to give a well written parallel world with it's own rich history.
Overall its a strange concept that had a great execution +1
I'm not sure I'm digging the sour outlook the researcher has on non-monogamy. Then again I'm not digging the forced non-monogamy either. The writing's fine overall, this could have been a real creepshow and it wasn't.
Sorry if this sounds a bit nitpicky, but how did the Foundation know that the first SCP-3651-2 instance looked Mediterranean if the physical appearance depends on the observer?
Interesting idea that doesn't devolve into fetishapalooza, which is highly tempting but possibly counterproductive. I think you're onto something, though I'd recommend a few tweaks:
- Clothing would be a lot more varied than just different degrees of not wearing things. I know you're going to remove the classroom log in favor of excerpts from recovered materials, but the bit about the professor being attired normally minus pants is not terribly believable. People would still wear clothes, they'd just be easier to either get off or move so as to make sexual activity possible. Fashion would likely change to reflect this: chaps, codpieces, kilts all becoming more popular for men for example. Or loincloths. Or parasols + very little clothing. Full on nudity would also be more common in temperate climates, given that it's already permissible (though controversial) in some major cities. Use your imagination, but remember that people wear clothes to protect themselves from the elements as much as modesty. It might be amusing to hear what sorts of pervy adjustments have been made to winter wear, for example.
- Also with regards to the going-to-be-removed classroom bit, but still possibly relevant: students sitting two to a desk is a little silly as well. Sexual activity should be commonplace but people still need to FUNCTION. An orgy at a traffic jam? Alright, I buy it since people aren't doing anything but waiting. An orgy at school during class? They're theoretically there to learn (though I note that you picked a Community College, so fair play). The whole premise of this is that society continued on in a surprisingly parallel development. Maybe instead of a "smoke break" it's a "fuck break", and maybe the boss's secretary gives him a cup of tea and a blowjob while he works, but make sure that people understand that work still gets done.
- The bit about "hermaphroditic features" either should be dropped or explained a bit more. I gather it's because the "gods" are tinkering with the human genome, but that was a rather large leap on my part. You might incorporate it into the explanation you're thinking of adding for why their medicines won't work over here.
- With regards to The Choir and the guy talking about his disappeared wife, if he thinks he has to explain what "marriage" is to the agent then he's not going to assume they understand what "divorce" is either. Also, how can you divorce someone if marriage doesn't exist? Might be better to explain that another way.
- Also as a bit of a perv in RL, there are some logistical considerations that would be in place throughout this world if sex was this common. For one thing, picture anywhere you might normally find hand sanitizer, then add a dispenser for wetwipes, paper towels, and lotion. Also the hand sanitizer wouldn't just be for hands. Second, fabric towels of varying sizes would be carried by most people and sold goddamn EVERYWHERE, because just when you think you're clean you aren't (especially if lube is involved), not to mention you can use a towel as a makeshift bedspread, blanket, floor padding… you get the idea.
- While avoiding the temptation to let the article spiral into a showcase of fetishes, you should probably mention that they exist and are practiced (unless they AREN'T, which would be notable in itself). It doesn't need to be detailed, but something as simple as mentioning that "fetishwear is uncommon but acceptable for daily attire in many parts of the world" would do the job.
- While MTF Lambda-5 ("White Rabbits") are a fine fit here, MTF Lambda-12 ("kinkshamers") would also be viable for secondary inclusion, especially with the implication of the final interview log. If nothing else mentioning that they are to be involved in containment should one of the "gods" try to breech containment would make a lot of sense.
- EDIT: If you do make mention of fetishwear (or "paraphilic clothing" if you want to get all sciency), you may also want to mention whether or not there is any greater (or lesser) occurrence of fetishistic sexual activity and/or fetishistic interests among the population. I could see arguments being made for any of those being the case, though I'd present it with some exceedingly dry language, possibly some that mentions the phrase "standard deviation" if you feel like being a punny bastard.
- EDIT: With regards to the professor wearing everything but pants, there is a phenomenon at Burning Man (an event you might research for examples of more "free form" clothing choices) called "Shirtcocking" which is not regarded fondly. For a bit of a real-world parallel you could mention that while many otherwise outlandish and erotic fashion choices are generally accepted, "shirtcocking" is frowned upon.
Also, it's good to see another SCP that falls into the sexual category. I understand the hesitance of most contributors to include it, but it's still too often pushed away if you ask me.
