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Complaints about format tweaks will be ignored.
Complaints about the ending will be ignored.
Complaints about over the top containment will be directed towards Google.
THE DEER lives. All hail THE DEER.
e: The hamfistedness has been removed.
ee: Also thanks to Echo for his guidance in the matter of writing this monstrosity.
Can I complain about the fact that, despite breaking the Masquerade, this has nothing to do with the Broken Masquerade canon?
SCP-2000 bitch
SCP-2000 doesn't make the Foundation public. It allows them to force a reboot if it gets too public.
This is why I hate SCP-2000. This is why I wanted it made into a 001 proposal. As well written as it is, it destroys any sense of threat to the universe.
682 goes free? SCP-2000.
XK-class scenario? SCP-2000.
231 flips out? SCP-2000.
It didn't open up a bunch of new and interesting possibilities. It killed death. It ruined any sense of threat.
That said, the no canon thought process can extend to this in that we can say not all SCPs exist in the same universe. Just because one universe has the 2000 we voted into place doesn't mean another doesn't have, say, Esko's or Famine's. So perhaps FFB's 2000 exists in only one universe.
Actually, it only can, as you say, "kill death" if the death in question was a GK (I think) "Dead Greenhouse" scenario. It creates new humans; it can't rebuild an uninhabitable world.
Not being open to criticism seems like a pretty weird point of pride…
Call it pre-emptive avoidance of whining.
e: And I mean that in that I know full well that this article will receive a lot of downvotes not based on the quality of the writing, but because I used different format, or because of the ending, or something like that, so I decided to save people the time and effort.
It's more 'this is part of the point'. If the point of your article is about giant dancing hippos, would you appreciate complaints that the giant dancing hippo parts of your article are stupid? I, however, am not Djoric. Also, +1
Your mature attitude towards critique based on concept and execution is noted, Djoric.
Ennhh, to make this kind of statement is rather obstinate.
We don't get to set parameters about how people receive/criticize our work.
On a sad note, I want to upvote this so hard, but I can't because of the broken masquerade; I'm sorry, Djoric, really. Fuck it, +1.
Ammonia has no vapor pressure at -110C and 2.3 bar, and cannot form any portion of an atmosphere.
I want to upvote this, I really do.
But I can't.
I love the writing, the doctor's note on the procedures, the implications, everything.
The reason for my downvote is that it breaks an established canon for me. The object/containment class is just a minor quibble (I have strong opinions against breaking SEK but that's for another day), but I truly dislike a big fat stamp in the face of an established "canon" opinion. Call me a traditionalist, but I truly don't like the idea of a defined "end" to the secrecy of the Foundation. While I'm not opposed to the idea of a "public" Foundation per se, I'm opposed to making it canon in an SCP. I love the Broken Masquerade canon, and other re-imaginings of the Foundation, but as an SCP? I can't do this. While there are many SCPs like SCP-1425 or SCP-1057 that defines a GOI, or many that tweaks with the inner workings of the Foundation, this is really shattering to me, because it straight up just breaks the whole "secrecy" deal in half that was pretty much root to how the whole site started. I love the idea but I can't accept it in my headcanon. That's why I upvoted the tale but downvoted the SCP.
Meh, Djoric probably won't read this anyways, and the writing is good enough to let it stay afloat, even maybe a +100. Still, I need to let it out of my system.
EDIT: The new edit is much better, less hammy and forced. Upvoted because it's a great piece of work that doesn't break site culture apart. There's still the "containment class" thing but meh.
I'm sorry, but in what way is that relevant?
In no way does SCP-2000 break the masquerade. In fact, it helps uphold it. It's a good article and all, but if your response to criticism on this article is just going to be 'SCP-2000, bitch', then please, shut up.
That's what I meant—-as in, this could be an incident which ends up being overridden when another SCP-2000 event is needed. It's like a magic reset button, only with people dying a lot
Repeat after me: "There is no canon." Not all Skips exist in the same universe.
Thank you for your eloquent response, it has been duly noted.
SCP-2000 is not simply just a magic reset button. If that's what you think it is, you really should read it closer. Sure, the kicker of the SCP is the implication that this thing is older than we think and we actually have no idea how many times it has been activated, but read closer to see why it's chosen as the SCP-2000.
If it's so easily explained as "yeah man it's just from another timeline mannnnn" then you didn't read my rant at all.
I didn't say it WAS a magic reset button, but I heard someone comment on it that it ties in very well with justifying conflicting canons
Congrats, you completely missed the point of SCP-2000
This thread is 116 days old, and your point (which you've posted twice) has been made, better, by at least two users beforehand. Please stop replying to dead comment chains if you are not constructively furthering the conversation. Don't spam either.
Don't like the ending. We've discussed this. The Foundation as a concept is a masquerade. Thats the point of having a SECURE, CONTAINMENT, PROCEDURE.
This is a fabulously written article. But the ending kills it. I can't say it should stay on the site.
I'm cool with the Broken Masquerade canon and it has some amazing work associated with it. But that's not the site as a whole and that's not my personal head canon.
Just gonna neutralize my vote. Maybe in the future I'll upvote for Xerneas. Just can't bring myself to atm. Apologies for mad.
And flat out stating that you are ignoring negative input is just great in the manner that you did is just not very pleasing professional. You can do so much better. Like Carbon said it's just so hamfisted.
I am not ignoring negative input. I am ignoring complaints about breaking the masquerade and the modified object classes. I am not ignoring complaints as to how I used these, but those that focus entirely on the fact that I did.
I'm changing the format and breaking the masquerade. Absolutely nothing will change my choice in the matter.
The format is fine, the ending is just really a dealbreaker here. I really want to see this survive, so I urge you to remove the last bit for now, until you can make it more smooth with the rest of the piece.
e: Hey you fixed it yay
Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!
EDIT: That is a huge improvement! Upvoted with gusto.
So, this is basically an improved version of the one I read in draft, which is excellent. It's all there: the awesome space-god-deer, the intricate containment, pushing the boundaries just-enough with implicit breaking of the masquerade.
Except you ruined it by smashing the latter into the reader's face, ham-fistedly, with that last sentence. (Edit: And with a few of the changes elsewhere, like declaring the GOC to have broken the masquerade in a Foundation object retrieval log.)
I am not downvoting because you broke the masquerade. I'm downvoting because the method you ended up going with to deliver that information to the reader is ham-fisted as fuck.
tl;dr: Son, I am disappoint. :/
Excellent article. I especially like the doctor's note.
By the way, I drew this SCP on MS Paint. Do you like it, Djoric?
I honestly can't give a shit about nonstandard object classes. I very much enjoyed this, as this was written in such a way that it actually feels like a god, something most skips dealing with gods fail to do well.
Exciting stuff here. : D
SCP-2845 is a quadruped entity, measuring 2.9 meters in height at the shoulder and weighing 815 kilograms. A sinuous neck, generally held in an upright position, extends a further .5 m, terminating in a head with humanoid facial features.
The Spirit of the Forest from Princess Mononoke?
A ring of ice particles is suspended 15 cm behind SCP-2845’s skull, measuring 1.7 m in diameter, with a ring thickness of 35 cm. This ring is interrupted at regular intervals by seven spheres consisting of metallic hydrogen and metallic helium, each measuring 15 cm in diameter. The ring and spheres rotate clockwise at a speed of 1.6 rpm.
Budda?
The most common forms of offensive transmutation used by SCP-2845 are a column measuring five to seven meters in diameter and sixty to eighty meters in height, or a horizontal cone measuring between one hundred and one hundred and fifty meters in length and ten to thirty meters in width at the furthest end.
Okay, I admit it, I'm lost here.
So… it breaks the masquerade. Tragic. Okay, it's a big thing, and it's perhaps too far-reaching for it to be a mainlister and not a tale, yet I honestly don't care about that.
Perhaps what Mr Carbon mentioned earlier (the ending is too sudden, too "hamfisted") is what bothers me the most, but otherwise? This thing is a perfect representation of an Eldritch God-King arriving into Earth. Were this thing to be a two kilometers-tall titan, it would belong in an NGE standalone movie. It is strange and alien and it shocks our world. I like it.
Thus, even if it many others make valid points in this Discussion page, upvoted. Most other authors will ignore this SCP altogether, and that's fine… the Foundation canon is broad and diffuse enough as to allow most stuff in it to exist without interacting with most other articles. Although I want to see what changes can be done to it.
Thanks for the good read, whether this survives or not.
Edit: Now that it seems it's here to stay, designated for the SCP-ES translation pool. Really exciting stuff. :_D
Well written, I loved the doc's note. I'm going to stick with "There is no canon"
+1
Echo linked this to me in the IRC.
It didn't really click as I read it…but it was the very end, the little narrative in the end, with O5-7 sitting alone on that park bench, that completely made the piece for me.
The sense of sadness, of doubt, using a name instead of a designation, humanized her. I could empathize with her.
And suddenly everything in the article seemed so great, I couldn't help but upvote.
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