Hey man, you need to add a rating module.
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Sorry, gotta downvote because it's not probabilistic.
You downvote all articles that aren't about probability functions?
Okay so, there's a pretty neat idea in here. I think the concept of pi being an scp is intriguing, and I certainly like how there's a secret hidden within the later digits, so the foundation makes sure people don't work it out that far. However there's two main issues I find with this article. 1. The maths is a bit weird. I don't particularly like the mathematical explanations you've come up with. 2. Whilst the initial idea is very interesting, the article doesn't retain my interest as I'm reading it. I'm still completely clueless as to what this means, aside from "Someone somewhere put a message in this". You as the author may know what that means, but I really don't. You need a more interesting narrative in your article (Perhaps explain to us what these creatures are, where they came from, what they're doing what their motivations are, why the foundation needs to hide this information etc.) So in conclusion; you've got a really good base concept, and I'm certainly intrigued to read more, so touch up on the maths and give me a more engaging narrative. -1 for now
(Perhaps explain to us what these creatures are, where they came from, what they're doing what their motivations are, why the foundation needs to hide this information etc.)
Aren't they pattern screamers?
Yes, but he’s right. I should provide a little more than “look, pattern screamers, weird messages”
Yeah, I’m not a mathematician so I had to bs it a bit. If you have any suggestions as to how I could make it more plausible I welcome them. And I’ll try to add to the narrative some as well. I’m already planning to link a tale to it, one that I’m going to write as soon as I’m done with the big calculus test and the informational speech I have this week. In the meantime, I might expand Dr. King’s note to give the audience a bit more context.
I feel like I've seen pi calculated to more digits than referenced, right? Maybe make it more like .. Well idk how to get black boxes so pretend redacted is black boxes,
"(Redacted) x10(to the power of redacted several digits)"
i absolutely love the pattern screamer lore and everything tied to it and this fits the frame perfectly in the sense people would have had to intensely search for such an anomaly and the page, description, addendums and idea are all perfect yet unlike other pattern screamer scp's it has very little build up or gut wrenching flair and is overall great but far too short for a proper pattern screamer entry. +1
There are a lot of SCPs that are numbers, but in addition to them being confusing, a lot of them are kind of bland. Fir the most part if you see one you’ve seen them all. Sorry it’s a good idea but I have to downvote
What SCPs are you taking about? I’m only familiar with one numerical skip, and I’m pretty sure I didn’t summon any grizzly bears
Okay I expanded Dr King’s note a lot, hopefully that’ll add some horror to all this. I’ll collapse it later, right now I’m editing from my phone and can’t make the collapsible work properly.
I'd have much preferred this if it had ended about halfway through. I don't mind Pi getting anomalous after some point or even the fact that it somehow isn't a constant (that'd seriously break a lot of number theory), but at some point it veers way too hard into mathematical woo territory.
Seconding this wholeheartedly. I think this suffers from a lack of clear focus. The initial premise feels like a good topic to explore - moving into the realm of something just beyond what we can typocally perceive/know of, where there is some form of breakdown of logic, or something secret, or horrid, laying just beyond the cusp of our understanding of the universe.
However, as it progresses it seems to neglect the KISS (keep ir simple, stupid) principle, which somewhat weakens the horror with excessive complexity, and strains disbelief by introducing both A) that each time this area of pi is reached, we find a different message and B) that there are other numbers with their own consiousness behind them.
Either of those things, sure, may make a fine story in their own right, and hell, maybe all those elements can be better threaded in a more coherent manner that is able to satisfy. As-is, I don't get the sense that these traits, their discoveries flow well, and ultimately, I'm turned off to it all.
Similar to the thing about pi from the end of Contact, not that comparison to Carl Sagan is remotely fair.
I think this is either too much or too little. The messages are just kind of there and feel disconnected. Also having them be in English seems far too convenient and feels unsupported (why not Ortothan, given the content?).
They appear in the language of whoever’s doing the calculation, but Ortothan is actually a better idea. Would it be possible to convert from binary to Ortothan, though?
I haven’t read Contact, what does it say about pi?
Never mind, I looked it up and now I feel like crap for unintentionally ripping off St. Carl.
It's possible to translate any countable set of symbols into binary (or any other numerical base), including alphabets.
Oh. I don’t really know that much about coding (in case you couldn’t tell). When my classes are done for the day I’ll make that adjustment. I might also scrap everything after “all irrational numbers are considered instances of SCP-4314”, at least until I’ve written the tale that justifies it.
Ok I'm in agreement here that you have something potentially cool here, though I'm not sure cutting down on it is a good idea.
Whether math is a fundamental part of nature, creation of man, a combination of both or something else entirely is highly debated and great fuel for sci-fi and I personally think exploring commonly accepted laws such as math as being extra-natural is rather untapped1
Once you establish that though it's just kinda that. Sure one of them is apparently evil and powerful but that's about it. There's so much more you can do with this: Where did these things come from? How do they observe reality? That kind of thing. I'm not saying not to be vague but don't just have a base concept either.
It also needs to be polished an re-worded but that's not my thing.
Footnotes
1. I'm rather fond on the theory that MEKHANE made mathematics.
Okay, you've certainly improved it. Its a decent read, except for one glaring issue. "though termination is to be used only as a last resort to avoid suspicion." Just no. You've already said you can use amnestics, people who've calculated it past this point, and termination doesn't really avoid suspicion. Also, the foundation does not kill innocent people unless absolutely necessary. They may do dubious things with D class personnel for the greater good, but this really paints them in the wrong light and doesn't fit with the canon at all. Remove that, and I think it deserves a +1
Done. Let’s get this baby back to -4.
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